I haven't found any serial number decoding system (similar to the one at bossarea.com) for the Ibanez pedals, so there's no way to accurately get a manufacture date just off a serial number. However, there are clues.
The CE thing went into effect in 1996, and IIRC the CS-9 reissue came about after that date. If my memory is correct, a reissue CS-9 should therefore have a CE marking on its label.
Also, current production Ibanez 9 series pedals all seem to have 7-digit serial numbers (the originals and some of the early reissue TS-9's had 6 digits). The circuit board and battery door (inside) was marked 'Maxon' up until 2002, while later pedals say 'Ibanez'. So if you find a CE marking, or a 7 digit serial #, or if the pcb or battery door says 'Ibanez', you can be fairly sure it is a reissue.
Sadly, the opposite argument isn't as easy to make - the first three years of production, the TS-9 reissues were virtually indistinguishable from the originals.
This month we continue to bust some rampant pedal myths. Let’s get started. Myth: TS9s with no “CE” mark on the label are originals.
The original Ibanez TS9 Tube Screamer was made from 1982 to 1984. The earliest of these had a black label on the bottom plate, which easily identifies it as original.
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But the labels were changed to silver with black writing at some point during the original production, and when Ibanez reissued the TS9 in the early ’90s they continued to use the silver label. The CE marking, indicating compliance with EU safety directives, started to appear sometime after 1993. With regard to the TS9, this would lead to the logical assumption that a silver label with no CE mark must be original, but this isn’t necessarily so, since the TS9 reissue dates back to at least 1992. Analog Mike thinks that starting with the serial number is a better indicator: “The 1st digit of the serial number helps in determining the year of manufacture; a “3” indicates 1983, and you will see a lot of these starting with “4” for 1984. These can have the earlier JRC chips, but they sometimes have the TA75558 chip as used in the reissues. These are almost impossible to tell from the first reissue TS9.
But the reissue TS9 will usually not have a serial number starting with 3 or 4. I have reissues from the early ’90s with the serial numbers 206XXX and 207XXX that are probably very early reissues from 1992. They have silver labels, whereas an original from 1982 would have had a black label. I also see a lot of silver label TS9s with serial numbers starting with 1. These are all reissues, as a 1981 would be a TS808 or a very early TS9 with a black label.
All reissues and late originals have the TA75558 chip.” Myth: You can use a line level 25k volume pedal if it’s after a buffered effect. No, you still have a low impedance guitar level signal, not a line level signal, and using the wrong pedal will hurt your tone. A 25k pedal is meant for line level signals such as keyboards or for send/return loops. Use a 250k volume pedal with guitar level signals. Myth: A pedal is true bypass if you can hear the dry signal when off, without power.
This myth probably started because when using a pedal with a buffered bypass, such as Ibanez or Boss, it’s actually true. When these pedals are without power, they will not even pass a dry signal. But this test only works on pedals using an electronic bypass.
Most older pedals like the original MXR, Electro-Harmonix, and old wah pedals used an SPDT – single-pole, doublethrow – switch to send either the direct signal from the input jack, or the output of the circuit, to the output jack. This will pass the above test, but it doesn’t mean the pedal is true bypass. The input signal from your guitar is still connected to the circuit when the pedal is off, which can cause tone suck and loss of high-end and even volume.
This is especially noticeable in old wah pedals and vintage Big Muffs. Other pedals, like some MXRs, have less noticeable loss, even though they are not true bypass. Never use a power supply that has AC voltage output in a pedal that is designed for DC power.
Myth: A 9V Line 6 power supply will work with a battery-powered pedal. Not really a myth, but more of a mistake. Guitarists see a plug and a matching jack, put one and one together and end up with zero.
We feel Line 6 has done us a disservice by making their AC power supplies with the same size plug as standard DC powered Boss pedals; thousands of pedals have been blown due to this. Most guitar pedals, including nearly all batterypowered pedals, are DC. However, there are some effects that use AC voltage. Never use a power supply that has AC voltage output in a pedal that is designed for DC power. Myth: Digital effects digitize your sound, even the dry sound. This may be true with some effects but most, like a Boss digital delay with a separate dry signal and added wet signal, keep the dry sound purely analog. We have even more myths to bust at a later date, but that’s a wrap for now.
Remember, the Internet is a great source of information, but there are way more opinions out there than real facts. And opinions are like bellybuttons – everyone’s got one!
Check back with us next month and we’ll help you define your dirt. Until then, keep on stompin’! Tom Hughes Tom Hughes (a.k.a. Analog Tom) is the owner and proprietor of For Musicians Only and author of Analog Man’s Guide To Vintage Effects. For Musicians Only is also the home of the FMO Gear Shop.
Email: web: Analog Man (analogman.com) is one of the largest boutique effects manufacturers and retailers in the business, established by “Analog” Mike Piera in 1993. Mike can be reached.
See my tube screamer history page: Here are the bottoms of the four different TS9s. On the right is an original with black label, easy to tell and date, if 1st digit is a 1, that would mean 1981 (a VERY early TS9!).
These usually have the JRC4558D chip, or sometimes the lousy JRC2043D chip. Second on the right is an original silver label TS9. The 1st digit is a 3 meaning 1983, you will see a lot of these with a 4 for 1984. These can have the earlier chips or sometimes the TA75558 chip as used in the reissues. These are almost impossible to tell from the 1st reissue TS9.
But the Reissue TS9 will usually not have a serial # starting with 3 or 4. I have reissues with a 206XXX and 207XXX number here with a capacitor made in 1990, maybe a very early reissue from 1992. These have silver labels, an original from 1982 would probably have had a black label. Third from the right is a 2nd version reissue, with the CE symbol so you know it's a reissue. It still uses the original MAXON circuit board and MAXON on the battery cover. The reissues all have the TA75558 chip. Note the box has bar code info, this will not be found on the original boxes.
On the left is the latest 2002+ reissue, with the IBANEZ board and IBANEZ on the battery cover. Originally posted by MattCrane did they come with the good chip? I wonder wear mine is. TS-10's came with whatever chip was available.
Many TS-9 originals didn't have the 'good chip' either. The chip business is supposedly a bunch of hot air, though. Many people claim a TS-7 sounds just as good as a vintage TS-9, or that SRV actually preferred the TS-10 to the earlier models, or that if you take a TS-5 and bury it in a fresh grave on midnight on Halloween, it will come back reincarnated as a giant black cockroach that can play a mean version of 'Tightrope'.
Thanks so much for the info. Looks like I got ripped off. Has the TA75558 chip 2. Has CE on the silver label (serial 003175) 3. Internet browsers for blackberry. The box appears to be original. No barcode on bottom.
Flap reads MB-TS1402, KU. Needless to say, I'm fuggin pissed. Originally posted by analogmike See my tube screamer history page: Here are the bottoms of the four different TS9s. On the right is an original with black label, easy to tell and date, if 1st digit is a 1, that would mean 1981 (a VERY early TS9!). These usually have the JRC4558D chip, or sometimes the lousy JRC2043D chip.
Second on the right is an original silver label TS9. The 1st digit is a 3 meaning 1983, you will see a lot of these with a 4 for 1984.
These can have the earlier chips or sometimes the TA75558 chip as used in the reissues. These are almost impossible to tell from the 1st reissue TS9.
But the Reissue TS9 will usually not have a serial # starting with 3 or 4. I have reissues with a 206XXX and 207XXX number here with a capacitor made in 1990, maybe a very early reissue from 1992. These have silver labels, an original from 1982 would probably have had a black label. Third from the right is a 2nd version reissue, with the CE symbol so you know it's a reissue. It still uses the original MAXON circuit board and MAXON on the battery cover. The reissues all have the TA75558 chip. Note the box has bar code info, this will not be found on the original boxes.
On the left is the latest 2002+ reissue, with the IBANEZ board and IBANEZ on the battery cover. Originally posted by analogmike See my tube screamer history page: Here are the bottoms of the four different TS9s. On the right is an original with black label, easy to tell and date, if 1st digit is a 1, that would mean 1981 (a VERY early TS9!). These usually have the JRC4558D chip, or sometimes the lousy JRC2043D chip.
Second on the right is an original silver label TS9. The 1st digit is a 3 meaning 1983, you will see a lot of these with a 4 for 1984. These can have the earlier chips or sometimes the TA75558 chip as used in the reissues. These are almost impossible to tell from the 1st reissue TS9. But the Reissue TS9 will usually not have a serial # starting with 3 or 4.
I have reissues with a 206XXX and 207XXX number here with a capacitor made in 1990, maybe a very early reissue from 1992. These have silver labels, an original from 1982 would probably have had a black label.
Third from the right is a 2nd version reissue, with the CE symbol so you know it's a reissue. It still uses the original MAXON circuit board and MAXON on the battery cover. The reissues all have the TA75558 chip. Note the box has bar code info, this will not be found on the original boxes. On the left is the latest 2002+ reissue, with the IBANEZ board and IBANEZ on the battery cover. I own an original TS-9 with the black bottom label and the serial number starts with the number '1'. Does anyone know how much they are worth?
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I just got this pedal yesterday that I can buy for 50 bucks if I want it. It's a vintage Ibanez FL9 flanger.
It's beat up and everything and someone took the sticker off the back with the serial. I just want a way to get some kind of idea of when It was made. I'd be happy with a 5 year window it could have Been made in. I don't have pictures but I can take some if necessary, but I'd really like to just know how to find it and ill open it up.
I already did open it up seeing if maybe there was a serial number in there. Any help appreciated!
And anyone who knows about vintage Ibanez pedals, please drop a line. I don't want to shatter your dreams or anything, but I don't see an advantage to 'Vintage Pedals'. I understand there are people that believe some older pedals sound better than newer ones, and I guess that's ok, but here's my problem with old pedals: Electronic components in the pedal will fail. The older the pedal, the more likely it is you will have a failure soon. I would recommend finding a new pedal that you like the sound of, and just getting that. Sometimes something older is just old. Just because something is old, doesn't necessarily make it vintage.
I don't want to shatter your dreams or anything, but I don't see an advantage to 'Vintage Pedals'. I understand there are people that believe some older pedals sound better than newer ones, and I guess that's ok, but here's my problem with old pedals: Electronic components in the pedal will fail. The older the pedal, the more likely it is you will have a failure soon. I would recommend finding a new pedal that you like the sound of, and just getting that.
Sometimes something older is just old. Just because something is old, doesn't necessarily make it vintage. Click to expand.I don't hold it to any standard because its vintage. A student at the music store I work at brought it to me(hes in his 30s) because I told him I had a cheap piece of crap FAB flange.
He only wants 50 bucks an I really like it. I'm gonna buy it no matter what I just like to know how old my gear is.
Ibanez Tube Screamer Serial Number Lookup
I have no idea why but its my one quirk with gear. I need to know how old it is. And in this case it is vintage. Vintage Ibanez refers to the 80s.
This pedal is in 4/10 cosmetic shape though.
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